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	<title>Comments on: Fear and Loathing in Business Media (Retail Real Estate Edition)</title>
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		<title>By: Media, the Market and the Mentality of Many Buyers - Atlanta Real Estate Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media, the Market and the Mentality of Many Buyers - Atlanta Real Estate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that exists in a buyers market, but, it&#8217;s somewhat overblown in terms of reality. The Real Estate Bloggers gave an example here of how the media feeds fear in real estate and let me set my explanation up by sharing with you an email I received yesterday from an active [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that exists in a buyers market, but, it&#8217;s somewhat overblown in terms of reality. The Real Estate Bloggers gave an example here of how the media feeds fear in real estate and let me set my explanation up by sharing with you an email I received yesterday from an active [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2008 might be a slow year for a lot of national credit tenants, but with tremendous change comes tremendous opportunity. Deals are getting done in centers once occupied by Bombay, Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, etc. I think its a credit time for independent operators that have sound backing to get better deals. In the past, landlords had choices, but now spaces are likely to sit vacant longer and landlords are going to start offering more incentives.

There are markets that will continue to do well even with a downturn. New York City is a hotbed for European Retailers and money. As long as exchange rates remain favorable and consumers are still shopping, New York will see many international retailers penetrate the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2008 might be a slow year for a lot of national credit tenants, but with tremendous change comes tremendous opportunity. Deals are getting done in centers once occupied by Bombay, Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, etc. I think its a credit time for independent operators that have sound backing to get better deals. In the past, landlords had choices, but now spaces are likely to sit vacant longer and landlords are going to start offering more incentives.</p>
<p>There are markets that will continue to do well even with a downturn. New York City is a hotbed for European Retailers and money. As long as exchange rates remain favorable and consumers are still shopping, New York will see many international retailers penetrate the market.</p>
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		<title>By: The Odysseus Medal competition &#8212; Voting for the People&#8217;s Choice Award is open &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Odysseus Medal competition &#8212; Voting for the People&#8217;s Choice Award is open &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Better start makin&#8217; copies of the Trulia-natorTom Royce &#8212; Fear and Loathing, Fear and Loathing in Business Media (Retail Real Estate Edition)Morgan Brown &#8212; Our Conundrum, Mortgage Interest Rates and Our ConundrumBrian Brady &#8212; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Better start makin&#8217; copies of the Trulia-natorTom Royce &#8212; Fear and Loathing, Fear and Loathing in Business Media (Retail Real Estate Edition)Morgan Brown &#8212; Our Conundrum, Mortgage Interest Rates and Our ConundrumBrian Brady &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TrafficCourt &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Retail Real Estate&#8217;s Outlook</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrafficCourt &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Retail Real Estate&#8217;s Outlook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now predicting major doom and gloom for retail real estate. (Hat tip to Real Estate Bloggers for pointing it out.. The Wall Street Journal this week also ran a piece with some dire predictions. (If you click to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now predicting major doom and gloom for retail real estate. (Hat tip to Real Estate Bloggers for pointing it out.. The Wall Street Journal this week also ran a piece with some dire predictions. (If you click to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Bodamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Bodamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That&#039;s something. I like the article even starts off defining commercial real estate as &quot;office&quot; and retail real estate as &quot;malls, strip malls, big boxes,&quot; when, in reality, commercial real estate is the broader term for all the income producing sectors including industrial, multifamily and hotels.

I do think there are real concerns on the commercial side and 2008 will be slow. But there are also many, many reasons to believe the pain won&#039;t look anything like what&#039;s happened on the residential side. 

CMBS loans, while they may have some issues and did get too aggressive, don&#039;t have the same issues as residential loans. There&#039;s no such thing, for example, as a no-doc or low-doc commercial real estate mortgage that I&#039;m aware of. Further, the pools of loans are scrutinized to a much greater degree because the average loan sizes or so much larger and there are fewer loans put into CMBS pools than RMBS pools.

With retail real estate specifically, retailers are definitely slowing expansion plans and some are closing stores, but it isn&#039;t a flood tide yet. The retail real estate industry could absorb some vacancies without it being a disaster. Developers, at least anecdotally, do seem to be scaling back projects, slowing down the pace of development and even pulling the plug on some--so that eases concerns about overbuilding I think.

Overall, I also don&#039;t think most observers realize that retail sales and retail rents don&#039;t have a direct correlation. Most retailers pay fixed rents, only kicking a percentage of sales if they have really, really good years. Further, most retailers are signing long-term leases--5 years or more. While it&#039;s certainly not great to have dark stores, the rent, in some cases, will still be coming in. 

Overall, I don&#039;t expect 2008 to be an easy year for the sector, but short of catastrophic numbers of bankruptcies and store closures, it&#039;s not going to be a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That&#8217;s something. I like the article even starts off defining commercial real estate as &#8220;office&#8221; and retail real estate as &#8220;malls, strip malls, big boxes,&#8221; when, in reality, commercial real estate is the broader term for all the income producing sectors including industrial, multifamily and hotels.</p>
<p>I do think there are real concerns on the commercial side and 2008 will be slow. But there are also many, many reasons to believe the pain won&#8217;t look anything like what&#8217;s happened on the residential side. </p>
<p>CMBS loans, while they may have some issues and did get too aggressive, don&#8217;t have the same issues as residential loans. There&#8217;s no such thing, for example, as a no-doc or low-doc commercial real estate mortgage that I&#8217;m aware of. Further, the pools of loans are scrutinized to a much greater degree because the average loan sizes or so much larger and there are fewer loans put into CMBS pools than RMBS pools.</p>
<p>With retail real estate specifically, retailers are definitely slowing expansion plans and some are closing stores, but it isn&#8217;t a flood tide yet. The retail real estate industry could absorb some vacancies without it being a disaster. Developers, at least anecdotally, do seem to be scaling back projects, slowing down the pace of development and even pulling the plug on some&#8211;so that eases concerns about overbuilding I think.</p>
<p>Overall, I also don&#8217;t think most observers realize that retail sales and retail rents don&#8217;t have a direct correlation. Most retailers pay fixed rents, only kicking a percentage of sales if they have really, really good years. Further, most retailers are signing long-term leases&#8211;5 years or more. While it&#8217;s certainly not great to have dark stores, the rent, in some cases, will still be coming in. </p>
<p>Overall, I don&#8217;t expect 2008 to be an easy year for the sector, but short of catastrophic numbers of bankruptcies and store closures, it&#8217;s not going to be a disaster.</p>
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