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   Comment by Portland Real Estate on 6 April 2009:

   Best of luck to our brothers of the north in Canada. I really hope their economy and their housing market does not end up like ours. I could not wish that on anyone.

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   Comment by Andrew Mckay on 12 April 2009:

   I don’t know enough about the collection of statistics for the whole of Canada to make any comment on the “headline” and I understand the post concerns the lack of statistics in Canada ,not the actual statistics.Rightly or wrongly I concentrate on the local market where I work.
   However I am very cautious about the objectivity of the Globe and Mail or any media outlet; bad news makes good headlines and there is definitely some negative inferences in the editorial to my way of reading it.
   One only has to look at the sensationalist headline in Maclean’s (a leading Canadian weekly magazine):

   “The shocking truth about the value of your home.”February 23rd 2009

   http://blog.macleans.ca/2009/02/23/the-shocking-truth-about-the-value-of-your-home/

   Below is a letter sent to the Ontario Real Estate Association (OREA) members from Teranet pointing out the “erroneous information and misleading statements” in the article. Also, here’s the link to the Maclean’s article:

   “Subject: Maclean’s magazine MLS® attack

   By Chris Butler, Account Manager, Real Estate (Teranet Inc.)

   Teranet would like to take this opportunity to correct some erroneous information and misleading statements that have been made in a Maclean’s article and on a BNN news segment, regarding Teranet’s role in the Teranet – National Bank House Price Index (HPI). Off the top there are a couple of key points to make clear to you as you hear or read information from these news sources.

   The first point is to clarify our exact role with the HPI – Teranet operates the Index as a co-venture with National Bank. Teranet, as part of other service offerings for the financial services industries, acquires property sales data from across Canada. Six metropolitan areas: Greater Toronto, Calgary, Greater Vancouver, Ottawa, Greater Montreal and Greater Halifax are used to compute the HPI. Of note is that Teranet uses historical property sales data collected from various provincial land registry systems and service providers.

   As operators of the HPI, Teranet does not in any way make predictions as to the future trending of housing markets. The predictions cited by these news sources are those of various economists and investors.

   A very advanced and proven methodology is used to compute the HPI that can be reviewed at the following link http://housepriceindex.ca and I encourage you to visit the site to become aware of the methodology and the sample reports.

   Several sections of the Maclean’s article provide inaccurate information:

   * “When the Teranet market started up in December, it immediately predicted a shocking drop of 20%, followed by an excruciatingly slow recovery that might not see prices return to last year’s high for seven years, or longer.” – To clarify, there is no “Teranet market”. We do not operate a housing futures market. Also, Teranet and the HPI, make no such prediction whatsoever. We use the raw data to compute the HPI values and the data has a 2 month lag (the index report that will come out tomorrow, February 25th 2009, references data current to December 2008). We do not make any predictions on future house prices nor do we make any predictions on when house prices will return to last year’s numbers.
   * The graph titled “The future of house prices in Canada” shown in the Maclean’s article – One needs to understand that the “Market Forecast” of that graph is again the prediction of various economists and investors, not what Teranet has actually measured. The HPI is not a predictive system; it only reports on what has actually happened in the six markets it covers.

   The reality is that Teranet has every interest in seeing the real estate markets show positive growth, as our revenue on transactional services is directly linked to the housing markets, so we would not participate in a business that would work at odds with our strategic objectives.

   You may also see a BNN news clip that was aired yesterday around 4:30pm that shows a table indicating that the “Teranet futures market” is predicting an 18% drop and no recovery for 5 years. Again, the predictions are not those of Teranet, nor are they computed through the HPI – the opinions are those of various economists and investors. The HPI generates the index values based on historical information of registered home sales.

   Two further notes: Maclean’s did not contact Teranet to validate the article. Also, the HPI has been referenced in the federal 2009 budget alongside Statistics Canada which is a good indicator that the methodologies used to facilitate the HPI are sound.

   I hope this provides some insight into the Teranet – National Bank House Price Index and assists in correcting some inaccurate information that you and your board members, OREA and CREA may have read. Should you have any further questions, please review the information at http://housepriceindex.ca .”
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   Comment by Ajay on 22 April 2009:

   I respectfully disagree with this blog. There is a lot of statistical information about the Canadian real estate market. Those who are actively involved in the market and are knowledgeable about this business know where to locate them. For example, CMHC (Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation – a government body) publishes a wide array of statistics on key indicators (housing starts, absorption rate, price history, inventory, sales to listing ratios, apartment vacancy levels and list list goes on and on). Furthermore, these statistical points are broken down by town and provinces on a monthly or quarterly basis. This data is used nation wide from realtors, real estate investors and even fiancial institutions. Furthermore, banks publish their own reports on the housing market – for example the Royal Bank Housing Affordability index is a widely know statistic used across the industry. Bottom line, contrary to this writers belief, there is a lot of information published about the Canadian real estate market.

   Ajay
   Real Experts Inc

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